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From "more," the first sticky and bright single released in March, to "orange juice," released today, BETWEEN FRIENDS is giving us a good gustatory modality of their upcoming EP,Cutie, out this summer. To say the least, nosotros can't expect for more.
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Riding That High with Confidence Man
part sabbatum down with Janet Planet and Carbohydrate Bones to discuss the album creation process and dissect the subsequent loftier they rode along the mode; read information technology all below.
As a grouping, how do yous interact effectively? Practice you find that certain members' strengths residual the grouping out?
Carbohydrate Bones — Since there are four of united states, in that location are unremarkably only a couple of main songwriters, but we're all pretty involved. Everyone definitely has their ain strengths — I remember one affair that really works for us is that we're all super shut, so it's a super honest process.
Janet Planet — No criminal offense taken.
Sugar Bones — No crime taken, but a lot of offense given.
Janet Planet — We tin can always exist brutally honest with each other and yell over meridian of each other. That allows us to say ideas that are probably a fleck unconventional and it also allows us to become things into songs that you usually wouldn't — kind of lightheaded things.
Sugar Bones — Yep, at that place are lots of ideas, but there are besides lots of filters. And then if something makes the terminal cut and everyone's happy with information technology, and then you know it's pretty solid.
Aye, I feel like that means y'all get the most genuine product if yous're all that shut and piece of work so well together. I read that every bit a group, you guys also all moved in together for the writing process of Tilt. Is that true?
Janet Planet — Yes, and that was how we wrote the first tape equally well — we were all living together at the fourth dimension so a few years later, Reggie and Carbohydrate were in one house and Clarence and I were in another, so over lockdown, we all moved in together to piece of work on this record. So I think information technology is kind of absurd that both records have been written in a like kind of situation.
Saccharide Bones — We'll probably finish upward doing that for all the records now.
Janet Planet — It might exist weird now if we don't.
Now y'all've established this tradition. I remember that'due south a really cool way to notice new creative inspirations.
Saccharide Bones — We milked every last bit of fun out of the pandemic.
Janet Planet — We did.
Sugar Basic — I think we were lucky that we had each other and we had the project to do during the lockdown. Because, y'all know, nosotros would've all gone a fiddling fleck crazy otherwise.
Janet Planet — I call up nosotros still did go crazy, but information technology was similar a productive crazy.
Carbohydrate Bones — Definitely. But there was a low-cal at the stop of the tunnel; nosotros had something to focus on. I'thousand stoked that we had each other for that — it could have been bad.
It was a time, especially for people who create things, that it was really difficult to source your inspiration — you lot had to observe new ways to do it since we literally couldn't go exterior. How did you guys bargain with finding creative inspiration in a time where it was a scrap harder to do so?
Janet Planet — I think a lot of the creative inspiration simply came from our friendship with each other and being in this weird, insular world where it was simply the 4 of us who existed, pretty much. We were sort of making this 'fake' fun from something that was so un-fun. I think that probably is where a lot of the inspiration comes from — that relationship and this want to have a good time, even in the worst of times.
Carbohydrate Basic — Yeah, I guess we had to go back to the basics — just the four of us focused on how much we actually love making music together. That can pretty much accept y'all out of whatsoever situation and put yous in the highest, happiest identify e'er. In one case nosotros had sort of gotten over the first initial shock of COVID, we institute the groove and we did it every day for about a year straight.
If you lot had to think of something that changed from the first album creation process to this one or something new that you learned, what would yous pinpoint?
Carbohydrate Basic — With the first album, it all happened really apace and we didn't really know what we were as a band or what we were making. Information technology was all super naive and that was kind of a good thing. We ended up developing these characters — accidentally. Then then with the 2d one, we really wanted to not restrict ourselves from that showtime process and that first sound. I think with the second 1, nosotros were a bit more than costless in where we wanted to accept the music and where nosotros wanted to accept the characters. I also think we'd all all progressed quite a chip as musicians and songwriters.
Janet Planet — We've listened to and so much music in the past half-dozen years — the stuff we were into and all the sounds that nosotros wanted to achieve have evolved and grown and developed a bit. This fourth dimension around, we knew a lot more. Also but the way we wrote this record as well, we tried to alter it upwards considering nosotros didn't want to go restricted by the whole '2d album expletive.' We learned a different manner of writing from Greg Alexander of New Radicals. We did a writing session with him and he showed united states how to let yourself go and meet what comes to you naturally. I recollect that was how we were able to brand this record more off the cuff, which stopped us from getting so bogged down.
Sugar Bones — Yep. Considering anybody always tells you lot, 'Oh the second album — it's going to be terrible.'
I understand how it'southward scarier the second fourth dimension effectually though, because you're by the get-go time jitters and it'south more and so, 'Tin can I live up to what we made before?' What is i of the craziest stories yous accept from writing and living together?
Janet Planet — There are and so many illegal things nosotros could say. I suppose one of my master memories was that we got into this weird routine of making these home videos where we'd make music and and then we'd brand film clips to go with them. We came up with artistic ways to film these silly clips. Just wild stuff, like domicile production stuff, and no one should ever see those videos.
Saccharide Bones — There were some skits.
Janet Planet — Oh yeah. Nosotros wrote some scripts that no one should always encounter.
Sugar Bones — We spent a lot of fourth dimension merely making bad fine art.
Janet Planet — A lot of information technology. We also made a guild in our lawn area. What was information technology chosen?
Sugar Basic — 'Shed.' And then we had this crappy old shed in the backyard, total of junk — storage and whatnot. I remember it was probably nine months into the lockdown and we're all a little bit stir crazy. Similar we're only missing the club so much. So we decided, 'Let'south just make a club in the shed.'
Janet Planet — We got to piece of work. Information technology was really cute.
Saccharide Bones — We mounted iii lasers and put the decks in there.
Janet Planet — Spray painted imitation large speakers. And nosotros spray painted a part of it called, 'The Fuck Bunk.' We fifty-fifty had a security baby-sit and everything.
Sugar Bones — And then it's just the five of united states in at that place. That'southward all you need.
So you guys are partiers for sure, and it definitely manifests through your music — this very carefree, fun vibe. You mentioned some illegal things that went on — we don't have to talk about those things. But I did read that something that factored into your writing process this fourth dimension around was psychedelics. Practise you think that helped open up a new artistic space for you guys?
Saccharide Bones — I think that always helps. Also during lockdown, we were then restricted physically and non going anywhere. So if you lot can free your mind in any way, it definitely helps. We'd have a few nights where we'd just sit down in the kitchen with a hundred dollar USB mic plugged into the laptop and just kind of riff on that for 12 hours direct or all night. I think there was some pure magic that came out of that. It's a sneaky way out of the lockdown.
Janet Planet — Make our own social club and do some mushrooms.
Is at that place a moment that you call up, similar an 'aha' moment or an epiphany that came about through experimenting while on mushrooms, or maybe something else brought that well-nigh?
Carbohydrate Bones — Oh, ecstasy definitely helps likewise.
Janet Planet — I do remember writing a few tracks on the tape or pieces of tracks on the record and thinking, 'This is gonna be really good when I'yard sober,' and I'd listen to information technology and it'd exist rubbish.
I was going to say, that could exist the downside of writing 'enhancers.'
Sugar Basic — Yeah, it could really go both ways.
Janet Planet — Simply so there were a whole agglomeration of those good 'aha' moments. The chorus of 'What I Similar,' — I remember writing that at 5:00 AM, all of u.s. sitting around the microphone. And listening dorsum to that, we were like, 'Yeah, that's definitely going to be a chorus. That's going to be on the record.' So in that location were moments like that for sure, where you give thanks your wasted self for doing such a great job.
Sugar Basic — Definitely. But there were also a lot of moments like that while nosotros were sober besides. We were kind of trying to treat information technology similar a job. So we'd exercise Monday to Fri, nine till five — just to create some construction in our lives, considering it was such a structureless time. So, you know, it could be a Wednesday at midday, and nosotros'd have a breakthrough for a rail and anybody would just be loftier from that kind of affair. The music was probably the biggest drug of all.
Janet Planet — And we'd modify things up if we were struggling on a rail. So we'd try it in the daytime so we'd try it again in the afternoon. And so later on we might attempt it at like v:00 AM when we're wasted. And at each one of those points, if y'all can't break the rail, so you're probably not gonna break it because you lot need to exist in a different caput space. We tried all the unlike approaches, so if we still couldn't get at that place, it probably wasn't going to happen.
What is your favorite vocal that came out of that fourth dimension?
Carbohydrate Bones — I retrieve a large favorite of mine is 'Relieve The Pressure.' Information technology's the last track on the album. I think that just felt real special; information technology was the commencement fourth dimension we let ourselves become over the four minute standard popular length of a song; information technology'southward a chip more than of a journeying. It's got all the different flavors of the album in one vocal and it was really fun to write.
Janet Planet — I feel like mine is like irresolute all the fourth dimension because nosotros're working on the live gear up at the moment. I'm seeing things come to life and how information technology'll look on stage and information technology'south been changing what my favorite is. Information technology's probably 'Break It Bought It' at the moment; we're working on this incredible group dance and it's the get-go fourth dimension I've ever been able to go all four of the boys in a trip the light fantastic toe with me and I've been really looking forwards to information technology. Then I think with that live operation coming together, that'south my favorite correct now.
Saccharide Bones — It's weird that information technology changes over time, just information technology does. Considering when we're just writing the songs, that takes so long and we're just so involved in that. And then the next stage, thinking nearly the live show and how to construction it and what dances we're going to exercise, what costumes, what sort of gags nosotros're going to pull out. And and then once we beginning actually rehearsing it — which we've only finished subsequently weeks and weeks — that changes it all again also.
The music was probably the biggest drug of all.
What have you learned and then far that volition help you proceed to evolve? Are you going to proceed the same traditions with the next album or find an entirely new arroyo?
Janet Planet — Well, I recall that ideally we would write information technology the aforementioned mode, just I likewise feel similar COVID probably forced that upon us. So I don't know if we would really write information technology living in the same house once again, like why would we? I mean — it was fun living together though.
Sugar Bones — Yeah, we're kinda sick of each other.
Janet Planet — Ill of eachother?? Never!
Sugar Bones — No — I don't know. It's hard to say because from the get-go anthology to the second album, there were four years in betwixt. And that was pretty much constant touring for united states of america and there's no way we ever could have predicted how the second ane was going to be written. And so the third i, that could be some other iv or five years from now.
Janet Planet — God, no. No way — nosotros're gonna be amend this time. We're actually gonna write.
Carbohydrate Bones — I think one affair I definitely want to practise again is actually put a big chunk of fourth dimension aside because it was actually so good being able to have that time with Tilt.
Janet Planet — It creates more than of a world that mode rather than progressively writing over a 3-year menstruum.
Saccharide Bones — We allow the songs dictate where they wanted to get, rather than trying to put them in a box. I call back that's probably something we'll stick to forever now.
Janet Planet — Yeah, and having multiple influences. I'm not agape of having a multiple genre album. I think that's cool.
Sugar Basic — Just letting the vocal be the best kind of vocal — any blazon of vocal that may be. And if that'southward a state banger, then that'southward okay.
Janet Planet — Well, I mean, I'd love to get a country banger in the adjacent album. That'south gotta be a goal. We accept a whole bucket list of things that we'd like to do for albums — we probably ticked off most 3-quarters of that so far. So there are a whole bunch of things that we wanted to get in that didn't get in, only they will side by side time.
Sugar Bones — When they're set. When they come up. And with the live shows, the more money nosotros get, the more nosotros can actually beget to spend on the live bear witness. So in that location are some crazy ideas we have for that.
Janet Planet — The more money we get, the more dangerous we get.
That's why you need to brand your country banger and take that only completely accept off, and so y'all tin do whatever you want.
Janet Planet — Yeah, we'll walk out on two dancing horses.
Well, whatsoever comes adjacent for you guys, land music, horses, whatever it is — I'thousand excited to meet.
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I came to know you and your music during the first quarantine—I would go for runs on the bayou by my house in Texas and listen to "260" and "Frozen River."
Yeah? What part of Texas?
I'1000 from the Houston area.
I love. My family lived in Houston. I'm from New York, merely I moved to Houston in similar 2011. I lived there for like six years.
Well, I'm from Sugar Land. Do you know where Sugar Land is?
Hell yeah! Yes. My family lives in Mission Bend, and then not also far.
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How did you get started in music?
Information technology's funny that we merely started talking about Texas, man. It really started when I moved at that place. I've always loved music, just from being in New York and just being around my older sister—she was really into going to the social club and stuff, you experience me? So, she was like download- ing music on LimeWire, and I was just watching all the time. But then when I moved to Houston, information technology was like the kickoff, possibly November of my 11th course yr in loftier school, and I had this friend, he was only always freestyling in the hallway and stuff. Then our relation- ship got really shut whenever I moved to Houston and we just used to talk all the time. And so he would just transport me beats similar, 'Yo, bro, spin over this beat. Yo, rap on this part. Yo, merely rap on this part here.' Then, I decided to freestyle with him there and just started edifice confidence through that. And so as I kept exploring my sound for the next two years, I was but trying to develop a plan like,This year I'yard going to do this clothing thing with my two friends from seventh class, and the music is going to exist like the 2d portion of the whole collection. Like, we'll push button the clothes first, and the clothes will drive the music, and and then the music will residual it out. Past this time, I was still figuring out my sound. I was like, rapping, changing my proper noun in dissimilar places. I had this one proper name, it was LARA, which means money in my mom's dialect. And it was merely like playing effectually, just figuring information technology out, and as well simply living life and shit as well, you know? It was maybe around 2013 when I figured out that I desire to exercise this culling kind of audio. That'southward what just started coming out of me, and I but kept running with it.
I feel like that intersectionality is kind of the base of operations of your piece of work. You're kind of similar a Renaissance man in that way—that you do wearable, modeling, yous make furniture, music, but information technology all plays into each other. Where practice yous think that comes from?
I only similar doing stuff, period. I think I become excited just to do things, make shit, like making things makes me excited. Music is my get-go thing that I got super excited almost because I was able to watch it on Tv and just get fully excited effectually it like that. I feel the aforementioned way fifty-fifty just about playing basketball game, you know? Watching my favorite player gets me excited. Yes... I think perhaps it'southward only my competitive nature, flow. I'chiliad like,Damn, I want to do this too. I can freak it this mode. My competitive nature and also only growing upward in New York, that was only a big office of my life, like e'er wanting to practise the adjacent cool matter.
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Was there a vibe shift when you moved from New York to Houston?
That was the biggest shift in my life, you know what I'm proverb? And that made me who I am. Houston's like, a big part of me. Because yep, I was in that fast-paced lifestyle, simply my parents, I experience like, ever wanted calm- ness. They have that dynamic nature virtually them, likewise. My mom and my pops, they just both love having people around and stuff, simply as well dear their peace. And again, my parents are both Leos, besides. I'1000 a Leo equally well. I'm an August Leo. My mom is August and my pops is July. Merely I think that also plays a big part of the intersectionality nosotros were talking about—they just actually love both sides. But [moving to Texas] was a civilisation shock, like non beingness able to go anywhere past human foot really. The weather. No one understood me from my accent, and their emphasis was like, a linguistic communication barrier. The teachers didn't nether- stand me. So, a lot of the fourth dimension—similar, that whole 11th grade yr—I was simply adjusting actually, because I wasn't really talking to people. I was nevertheless figuring out who my crowd was. And it was weird considering it was the same thing in New York, and it just started to get that residual. Once I got into high school, I thought I started to figure out,Okay, this is my crowd and shit, because growing upward, it was that same matter of like,Okay, I'm too African to be with the Americans, too American to be with the Africans, you lot feel me? Similar when you await at me, my features, you wouldn't be able to tell, unless you lot're African. And so, it was always this weird finding my place kind of thing. Going to Houston, that was happening once again, which besides just led me to swoop into myself more and listen and become back and forth with my friend doing music stuff, because I was just in the crib.
What does the name Angelnumber8 come from?
Man, ane day I was simply in my room chilling. I retrieve I was thinking about Dragon Brawl Z, and there's this grapheme—her name is Android 17—and I always liked the manner she looked and her 'fit. The haircut was sick—it was similar, this blonde basin cut. I was just thinking about the name and trying to change my name from the rap name that I had earlier, and I was like, Man, I'chiliad going to but do a twist o this proper name. And I was like, Okay, Angel Number... And eight is my favorite number. So, I just added that to the ending. Just then I found out a year and a half later that it'due south actually a thing, and people started telling me like, Oh, yo, in that location'southward a whole story behind this, and everybody has their own angel numbers. And I was similar, Oh, that's pretty cool.
I love your video for "Last Express joy." In terms of music videos, who do you recollect is the best to always do information technology?
Yep, I don't know if I've seen plenty videos to fifty-fifty put that statement out at that place. I've seen some cool ass videos, though. Of course, growing up, young Hype William videos were absurd to me. My favorite video since I was a child was "Put Your Easily Where My Optics Could Run across" by Busta Rhymes. I remember seeing that... You lot ever seen it earlier?
I don't recall so.
It'due south similar super, super creepy. In that location'southward like elephants in the video and stuff. But I just remember seeing information technology as a child, just bugging out, wondering like, Yo, why does this look so futuristic? Merely then information technology has, similar, a real African kind of tone to information technology too, and that was super absurd to me. That played a big function in what I'd be thinking most video-wise. I just like making shit that is just similar crossing two unlike lanes where you lot're similar, Okay, this music sounds like this, but this is a whole different kind of movie or visual put to it.
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I was watching your videos and listening to the songs, and I feel like you kind of have this overall mysterious free energy. It just got me thinking about mystery in today's music age. What do y'all think virtually the concept of mystery for artists today?
I call up it's absurd to meet artists like Frank Ocean and stuff. Similar, it'due south pretty difficult to know when that person is going to drib something, and you're going to desire to pay attention to it, you know? Just I retrieve nosotros got this shit kind of fucked up, human being. I think you got to enjoy life, and life kind of takes time. Yous got to become see the people you lot want to. I think all that shit, as well as your experiences — what's surrounding you lot and stuff — plays a big part into what you lot create. And then, sometimes, you need to exist on the down depression for similar a month. Sometimes you need to be on the downward low for a week. Sometimes for similar, half a year, y'all know what I'1000 proverb? I just be trying to proceed the residuum and run across what feels skillful to me, actually. So, if I don't post a certain matter, or I don't drop something, I try to just remind myself to trust in the process of life, flow. You know, try to apply that to what I'm doing, considering I know that what I'thousand doing is me, so it'southward always going to stand up out and be seen, considering I'm not trying to pull it from nowhere else.
What most your furniture brand, EA Design Studio? How does that piece of work tie into your music?
I feel like I just started doing information technology heavily. Like, with the furniture, I'll brand some sounds that'll go with it. Or if it's similar the whole concept of what the album is, just like this play on nature and things morphing into other things, it felt necessary to make a chair that was covered by grass and stuff. And then, it just kind of played with the same theme. It's kind of similar,Yes, I'm already doing this, why not just involve it in here?Nosotros did a show last Fri in Venice for the album release, and I made this book installation. But again, it was kind of playing in manus with what the anthology was, because I made this poesy book for the album. I was like,I might as well likewise show people that this is part of the anthology concept. So, let me make something that'due south fifty-fifty more bonny rather than you just holding the book in your manus, like, let's come across it in one room.
Who'due south your favorite writer? Are you into nonfiction and poetry and stuff similar that?
I oasis't explored enough, just growing up, Edgar Allan Poe was the first person that made me feel some shit. I was similar,Man, this is crazy,because I recollect just e'er not liking to read books and shit—there was cypher that was interesting to me. Only in one case I heard him, I was like,Okay, this is creepy for me. What is he about to say next? He'southward the person that made me feel some shit. Music-wise, I like Joni Mitchell. She's cool, how she writes.
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What era in music would you say yous're nigh obsessed with or that'southward had the biggest impact on you?
I feel like as a kid and early on teenage years, I was merely figuring out who Marvin Gaye was, Luther Vandross, older singers like Michael Jackson and stuff. Just and then, later in my teenage years, SoundCloud stuff really captivated me—and Kanye, what he was doing, as well. Simply I definitely think the older shit, similar the '80s stuff, for sure had me feeling some blazon of way.
If you could make up a genre, what would it be?
I did that already! What I did with the tapes and stuff forSoundmath—the genre that I created is called alternative poem and electronic poem. And then the genre for this project is called DiTri. It's similar a whole concept that kind of embodies the music.
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